The New Buick Regal

"JCAlan" (jcalan) 01/27/2018 at 09:55 • Filed to: None

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First one we’ve gotten in. This vehicle is so striking that it was 20 feet outside my office door for two hours  and I literally walked right past it 8 times and still didn’t notice it until someone asked me if I’d seen it.

bob and john > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 09:58

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then clearly its not striking enough.

JCAlan > bob and john 01/27/2018 at 09:59

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It’s just fine!

Matsayz > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 10:02

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Yeah, I mean thanks for a wagon Buick but it doesn’t really look different than anything else

Quadradeuce > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 10:05

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Dealers in my area still don’t have any. We want to look at it as part of our spring car search for a new family hauler. Not sure it’s big enough though.

JCAlan > Quadradeuce 01/27/2018 at 10:08

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It’s bigger than the old one, especially the back seat. And the hatch is nice. It’ll sell just fine. People who want to look at a Lacrosse but don’t want to spend 50 grand will love it.

404 - User No Longer Available > Matsayz 01/27/2018 at 10:13

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And thanks GM Canada for not even bringing the AWD wagon here, where it makes the most sense. I know people who actually want it.

Svend > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 10:35

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They are good looking cars.

Not attention seekingly striking but when it gets your attention, it holds you for a while.

Compared to what else you get in the states, this is a fantastic looking car.

Ye’, I know you guys and gals won’t get the estate but do get the crossover thing.

jimz > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 11:02

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Welp, all I can say is this:

Hey, Internet Car People? Here’s the wagon you claim everyone wants. So either get going on buying them, or don’t whine when it’s canceled.

jimz > Svend 01/27/2018 at 11:04

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yes we do get the estate. Buick adds fender flares but that doesn’t make it a crossover.

camarov6rs > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 11:07

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I’ll take the GS please!! I really wish they tuned the exhaust like the camaro’s

hillrat > 404 - User No Longer Available 01/27/2018 at 11:10

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Seriously? How is that even possible? 

Svend > jimz 01/27/2018 at 11:11

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A few in the U.S. in here started calling it a crossover so I thought that’s what you were calling it.

You get the Country Tourer

but not the Sport Tourer

404 - User No Longer Available > hillrat 01/27/2018 at 11:22

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http://www.buick.ca/regal-luxury-sport-sedan.html#

Don’t know, ask GM Canada. The wagon was never listed under Future and now not in the lineup when the liftback is.

jimz > Svend 01/27/2018 at 11:25

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right. apparently the “wagon” descriptor is still toxic to some people.

it’s like this thing:

I’d have called that a wagon, but nope, it was marketed as an SUV.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 11:38

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More importantly, is it available in “Retirement Light Tan”?

JCAlan > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection 01/27/2018 at 12:03

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According to the configurator, this car is not available in any shade of beige. Interesting!

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 01/27/2018 at 13:16

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Nope. They still don’t seem to get it. Speaking just for myself, wagon people are generally anti-SUV and thus the slight lift and black fender flares are more of the same pseudo-macho posturing that we’re against.

It’s just another attempt at trying to be all things to all people, and as a result appealing to nobody, and why it will fail in the marketplace. This, like the similar VW, have good bones and some appeal in their raw, base form, but are being ruined by this needless frippery.

Despite all of what I just said, I cannot explain Subaru’s success in the last few years...

itschrome > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 13:28

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They turned the outback into a SUV. So now people are all sweet not wagon, I want to buy that!

itschrome > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 13:31

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After driving around the 2017 ‘bu I could almost consider the New Regal. I’m just worried it’s too small for my taste. But a 250hp add wagon does sound nice. But also the GS.. wish I could just swing a lacrosse....

ranwhenparked > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 15:45

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Well, at least you can special order a regular V90. At considerable expense.

ranwhenparked > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 15:46

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Can you get a dealer installed carriage roof?

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > ranwhenparked 01/27/2018 at 16:08

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Yeah, good luck with that. Considering that most dealers discourage that and just try to sell you what they have on the lot, the odds of someone actually ordering what they want are pretty slim. Even I bought what the dealer had on the lot, but considering how few manual-transmission minivans were available for sale I compromised on the color. I got a good deal as it was the dealer’s loss-leader, but someone special ordering a car probably won’t get much of a deal and have to put up an extra chunk of change as a deposit.

Sorry for the rant. The dealership model needs to die...

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 16:19

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Problem I have is that kind of “perfect is the enemy of good” thinking is what ensures automakers give up on these kinds of experiments.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 01/27/2018 at 16:31

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It’s just a bodystyle, not a lifestyle. When I went looking at a Jetta Sportwagen a few years back it was priced and equipped as a premium vehicle, with all sorts of stuff I didn’t want/need. I’d like to see a day where we could pick a body, pick a trim and be done with it. The manufacturers are shooting themselves in the foot, at least in the US, by making wagons some sort of specialty vehicle when they should just be sedans with a windowed box on the back instead of a trunk and that’s it.

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 17:02

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Unfortunately the market is far too segmented to be able to go back to the old way. Back in those days everyone’s main product was a full size car with multiple body styles, with maybe a compact/sporty car below it and pickup trucks to the side.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 01/27/2018 at 17:20

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I guess we can thank all these marketing wanks, creating segments that never existed before (for good reason). Think about almost everything BMW and Mercedes have created in the last decade or so. Sport Compact Coupe SUV? Sure, why the hell not? Are people actually paying a premium for all this stuff that never existed before? You think there isn’t a big cost involved in coming up with the tooling for these trendy things? It seems to me that money isn’t being spent on what’s important, only what can get some quick profit right now to impress the shareholders.

Simplify emissions and safety regulations, preferably with a world standard, and don’t make it so tough to have minor variations on a bodystyle. Eliminate the expense of certifying each single tiny variation on a theme. Modern manufacturing techniques should make it easier to have multiple variants, and it should be quicker to make them. Just like the cable company that can give me more channels on their streaming service but won’t, auto manufacturers don’t seem to be terribly interested in giving us what we want since they’ve calculated everything down to the microcent.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > JCAlan 01/27/2018 at 17:32

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Oz is getting the Tourer version with the V6 (only engine available) and AWD. It’s on the list to consider for Forester replacement. However it’s pretty high spec...

I’m also slightly concerned about its potential orphan status given peugeot is unlikely to continue with this platform after 2022.

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 17:45

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They are giving us what we want. “We” (as in the market at large) want CUVs and pickups.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 01/27/2018 at 19:17

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I must have been born in the wrong country or born into a family of freaks. Nobody in my immediate family has a CUV or a pickup nor do they want one. I have the car I’ve wanted, a manual transmission equipped minivan, and there isn’t anything on the horizon I would want to replace it with...

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 01/27/2018 at 20:17

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last year, the industry sold 17 million brand new vehicles. You and your immediate family don’t even rise to the level of a rounding error.